Supplements And IV Therapy With Dr. Rosselli

We discuss in this podcast:

  • Merging conventional and alternative medicine
  • The role of hydration in treating diseases
  • IV vitamin treatments
  • How vitamin C can help with autoimmune diseases
  • The antioxidant power of glutathione
  • The importance of a correct diet
  • Zinc, NAC and coronavirus prevention
  • How to correctly take vitamin D
  • How to choose the right supplements

Clint – Welcome back, everyone, and today’s episode is very exciting because we have a special guest. His name is Dr. Rosselli. He’s the founder of Revital IV, Florida’s Premier IV Vitamin and Bio-Identical Hormones Centre. He’s also the chief of the (inaudible) theology and chief of surgery at Jupiter Medical Centre, and he’s a board-certified in anesthesiology, a member of the American Academy of Anti-aging, and certified in non-surgical facial rejuvenation. Thanks for joining us, Dr. Rosselli.

Dr. Rosselli – Thank you very much for the invite. The word anaesthesiology is always difficult to say. I’ve been saying it for 30 years and I still get it wrong sometimes.

Clint – It’s a killer. It’s also a word that fortunately none of us have to say too often. We don’t want to go down that path unless we absolutely have to. So thanks for giving me a little bit of a break there on that pronunciation. Let me just share how this came about. I went to your clinic a couple of months ago and I was really impressed with what was happening at the clinic, and excited to see a clinic such as yours. And I had an IV Vitamin C treatment and found the whole experience very positive. So I click on all of the emails that come through from your clinic which I must say I don’t do for many emails that I’m on as part of the bulk distribution. And then you were or your staff was promoting a set of supplements that were very affordable, and exactly the same set of supplements that a board or a panel of rheumatologists had been recommending for people with autoimmune conditions, who I interviewed only a few weeks ago. And so the match for me was perfect. And I thought, what a great opportunity while surgeries are paused over at the hospital to see if I could have you on board and take this opportunity to hear about these supplements in detail. Because it’s one thing to know we should take zinc for example. But it’s altogether another is to understand why and feel like we’re actually learning in this process of getting well and being healthy as opposed to just being a customer of Amazon and buying stuff all the time.

Dr. Rosselli – Being an educated person is important.

Clint – Most definitely. And it and it sort of makes the whole process of trying to get well more, I guess interesting, and feel like you’re more empowered. So with that background, I then was delighted to be able to have you on this show. And you’ve got two decades of experience as an anesthesiologist. So what inspired you to take the entrepreneurial step and an open clinic such as this?

Dr. Rosselli – Well, being an anesthesiologist, we use I.V. therapy every day for every patient. Whether it be blood products, regular fluids. So it was something that I’ve learned over the last 25 years that I feel very comfortable doing. So my background, I’ve always liked the wellness. So it’s a combination of being an anesthesiologist and understanding hydration in a person balancing their amino acids, balancing their vitamins and putting anesthesia. The part of anesthesiology that I do with the wellness side that I’ve learned being a physician. That is I thought it’d be a good combination in this area of Florida. Because people are dehydrated, people don’t eat well. Now there’s obesity and there’s diabetes, there are all types of diseases that we all know are around. So I try to put two types of medicine together and a wellness center that is able to do both safely. For instance, if you don’t like I.V. therapy and you’re scared of needles. (Inaudible) treat your vitamin D. I’ll help you with your diabetes, and all the types of medical issues that we might have that I can probably help you.

Clint – Not to create a stereotype here, but it’s quite unusual to have someone of a very high-level medical profession, also have even a passion, let alone a deep knowledge about alternative or complementary therapies. Typically, one who becomes right at the top of the hierarchical echelon, as you have become as chief of surgery at a major prestigious one, the best hospitals in Florida to have this interest as well. So have you always had a passion or a personal interest in wellness? Or is it something that you came to sort of learn more about because of a need. Because you’re seeing patients doing such fundamentally wrong things?

Dr. Rosselli – I would say it’s a combination of both things you just said. When I was 30 years old, I pretty much wasn’t into wellness. You know, when everybody is 30, you’ll feel great. You don’t feel like you need to lose weight or watch what you’re eating because we’re invincible. But as you get older my wife and I were very, very big into fitness. We had irritable bowel syndrome and some other issues with a quick-witted GI tract. And that triggered me to start learning these things. And when we got into our 40’s we all had hormone issues and that triggered us to learn about hormones. So it was more of an evolution of my needs and things that I’ve learned like Santa Conference. And it just triggered me to say, well, you know this I think there’s a place for this. So I don’t think this is more alternative medicine anymore. I think this is becoming more mainstream because of hormone replacement therapy. The old average is the 50’s the new 30, it really is true. And if you look at excretory grandparents or your parents at your age. If you’re taking care of yourself appropriately, you really don’t look like they did. I really think we might not be extending our life, but we’re having a better quality of life, because we’re able to manipulate things in our body that we have the opportunity to manipulate. And I think that’s the big difference in our age group going forward. And I just can’t imagine my children are in their 20’s. I would say to be for them later. This will be what we’re doing is going to be prehistoric to me. And it’s going to be like the Jetsons, where you have to take a pill and everything’s perfect and to balance everything out. So it’s kind of fun to be at the forefront of this because I see it evolving. Not just monthly, but like daily. It’s always something new coming up.

Clint – Yeah, definitely the forefront, as you said, because I reckon some of at least there’s a still wondering, well, what exactly is this clinic? So for those people who are new to this, can you just describe what is a hydration clinic, and what happens to a customer when they come to your clinic?

Dr. Rosselli – Okay, so in basics form it’s an I.V. vitamin therapy center. So for instance, if you come in and you say today, you know, Doc, I’m not feeling that good, is that a little bit of (Inaudible). I have a vitamin treatment for that. I’m trying to keep my immune system up and everybody’s worry about the COVID virus. I have an I.V. to help you keep your immune system. Say, I don’t promote hangovers, but I have a hangover treatment if you come in with a hangover. So I had like six or seven different I.V. treatments for certain types of people or certain types of conditions. But then if you came to me again and say, you know what, doc, I want to check my lab work and I want to see what my micronutrient palates. So it comes back and says, you’re missing B5, B6, glutathione, vitamin C, and oleic acid. Then I can make my IV to you and that’ll be your bag when you come in every time instead of getting a generic bag that’s on the menu.

Clint – That’s phenomenal. And I did know that. So when I came in.

Dr. Rosselli – I gave you the menu.

Clint – I came in and. Yeah. It’s like literally a menu. And I was conservative. And I just went with what I have become very familiar with, which is just IV high dose vitamin C. And I thought this is my first experience as a customer of the I.V. treatment. And I just wanted to take a small step, but I wanted to know what it’s like. Because there’s one paper published out in New Zealand where a lady had very high inflammation with rheumatoid arthritis. And she took her I.V. treatment of vitamin C and all her symptoms disappeared. And that was very fascinating to me and that was published in the medical literature. And so I thought, I’m going to go and try this and see if it’s something that people in our audience might be interested in trying. So I had a good experience with it also from a pre-surgical viewpoint. Because I was approaching a surgical procedure. Maybe you’d like to talk to just some of the benefits, including the ones that I’ve just mentioned. If you’d like.

Dr. Rosselli – Well, when we do a pre and post-surgical I.V., I try to put in a higher dose of vitamin C and B vitamins. Which will help the patient to get almost a neuroprotective effect or a neuromodulating effect, hight dose Vitamin C is antihistamine. So when I deliver anesthetic, usually when you come, you’re not eating and you did not eat after midnight. So when you come in dehydrated and your carbohydrate load is down. So I give the day before an I.V. that will help keep your fluids up. It helps a lot with nausea, it helps with almost the hangover effect from anesthesia which I see a lot. And when they come into the three days later post-op, I give them a similar I.V. and they do better from that. I mean, even small things that that are evolving from I.V. therapy for surgery is just, for instance, up into the last year. We’re giving patients a Gatorade, a bottle of Gatorade four hours before anesthesia. And that’s a similar process of getting carbohydrates into a patient and giving them some type of fluid intake. You know, Gatorade is, you know, what is it, six ounces or twelve ounces? So it’s really not a lot, but it does make a difference. So when I give my pre-surgical I.V. it usually a liter of fluid and people do a lot better that way.

Clint – Are there any other benefits that we should know before we move forward from vitamin C? Because only imagine it’s one of the most popular treatments that you have. So I don’t think the average person walking in this thing kind of like we just talked about and I was which we got pre-surgery. So what do you think motivates most people to get the vitamin C treat?

Dr. Rosselli – I think it’s more word of mouth because people have learned over over the years. Like you watch TV and you see emergency and all these other medications that they know supplements, people take over. So vitamin C is almost like a household name. So just also, since people are taking the bottom C all the time, they see a Madras cocktail, and a lot of people know what a (inaudible) cocktail is because it’s from someone named Dr. Myers, who’s an emergency room physician. Who made what they call the banana bag in his yellow’s from the B vitamins and he gave it to patients that have had issues. So that’s a common thing, and the combination of the vitamin C in the (inaudible), that’s what people come in asking for.

Dr. Rosselli – So when you came in, you might have gotten mires, but sometimes people get no recognition of that word and that’s the most common one. So like Vitamin C people like it because they all think it helps with colds and things, which it does, but it helps it lessens pain after injuries. And like I said before, it has an antihistamine effect and antioxidant effect. Patients that have, like you mentioned before, autoimmune diseases, it does help because it decreases the anti-inflammatory effects in their body. So a patient could have a C-reactive protein, which is your inflammatory marker, like fifteen. And they can get a high dose of vitamin C and get it down to levels where it’s acceptable. It’s temporary, but it keeps their inflammatory process lower. And we have environmental reasons. We have genetic reasons for autoimmune diseases, but there are some things that we can control. And one of the big one is our diet, what we put in our body. And I know some supplementation to help decrease the inflammatory effects.

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Clint – Yeah, it’s very safe, isn’t it? Because people wont worry about these high doses who don’t really know the research. But the research is there that as far as I’m aware, certainly by oral standards, the only side effect is a loose bowels.

Dr. Rosselli – Right.

Clint – But in terms of IV, I mean, you’re talking an order of magnitude. You’re taking two and a half, say you’re taking two to three grams a day orally with the I.V. treatment, it can go up to 25 to 30 grams.

Dr. Rosselli – Like a normal mires cocktail has like maybe five grams like one by one of my newer ones. Well, the resist has 20 grams. The patients that have cancer, on cancer treatments, they like to come in. I give them up to 50 grams. The 50 grams takes awhile while it takes about two hours to three hours because that’s something you can do fast. But it does make a difference.

Clint – Yeah. Well, next time I go in, I’m going to get what seems to be the hottest and most trendiest supplement at the moment, being talked about a lot in anti-aging forums and in just autoimmune sort of stabilizing groups, which is Glutathione. It says something that whilst is building in its awareness in the public is still something that I would say that most people don’t have a lot of understanding around. So I’d love you to explain a little bit about Glutathione, just real basics to begin with. And then going from there as to why it might be beneficial to add it to or either in a hydration therapy as you do or in a supplement form to loop back to the earlier point that I made that you have a set of supplementation form of this, which is on offer as well. So love to hear about glutathione.

Dr. Rosselli – Glutathione is my favorite thing. That’s my favorite I.V. medication or (inaudible) medication that we have. To me, it’s just amazing, it’s its most powerful antioxidant in the body. It’s usually from our diet, but our diet doesn’t have much of it. It’s high in avocados and certain other vegetables. But in our regular diet, it’s really not prevalent enough. What I like about it is besides, it’s an anti-aging process it detoxifies the liver. So it actually cleans our liver up. So if you came in for the first time and you had Glutathione, you might call me the next day. So I had a little bit of a headache or I just didn’t feel that great. It’s because the liver is releasing all the toxins from the glutathione. So it became it again. You most likely wouldn’t have had that issue. A lot of people like it for anti-aging because it’s great for the skin. In certain cultures, I know in Asia, people use it in a cream tab like their skin. So, women or men that have Melasma, where they have a black circle around here as they get older, people come in for those treatments once a week to get the melasma skin lightening to come out. So it’s pretty helpful.

Dr. Rosselli – Taking glutathione by mouth really doesn’t work. We also have like a sublingual spray. It’s something just like this. It just sprayed onto a tongue about four or five times a day. And I just you know, if you’re sick or you’re trying to prevent getting sick like we are trying to do today. These are some of the things I was recommended to do. And that’s also like the immune-boosting packet that I do besides vitamin C, glutathione, and zinc. Those are things that I think are most beneficial too. I just love glutathione, I can talk about it. It’s just my favorite.

Clint – I believe that the glutathione is actually an antioxidant that exists within our cells, isn’t it? So unlike other antioxidants that we think of. Like if we would just apply real common knowledge of antioxidants people might think or say, berries where we can eat some berries and we know that the antioxidants can fight free radicals in the body. But if our diet isn’t sufficient in these antioxidants or in the case of an autoimmune disease, the body’s efforts in reducing the pathogens that it perceives, which happens to be its own tissues. Create more free radicals in the process of doing so. So the autoimmune process is very free radical creating. And therefore, the studies show that people with autoimmune diseases are actually low on these things. They’re low glutathione and low on catalyzing another cellular anti-oxidant. They’re low on all of the dietary antioxidants that you mentioned vitamin C, vitamin D. And so it’s not because even with a great diet, their intake is too low. The dietary, it’s that the body just draws down on all of these antioxidants because they’re creating so many free radicals. So it’s a great argument to try and boost these from a cellular level with something like glutathione.

Dr. Rosselli – You know, it’s funny. The way you’re describing it is this is two types of people. There’s people like you and me that understand this. And they were promoting our lives to better health and wellness, getting rid of anti-oxidants. And then there’s another faction of people that are eating fast foods and foods that just don’t have these nutrients in it. So it’s almost separating classes from people that don’t know about this and are not eating well compared to the people like you and me. And it’s kind of sad, that’s why I want to get my message out, not just for entrepreneurial effects. It’s just because I really believe that it’s we really can help with obesity and get rid of diabetes. And we can guarantee you, we can get rid of half of diabetes, heart, and diabetes lead to dementia and diabetes lead to vascular disease and so many other issues that if we nip this in the bud now. This right now, you know, there’s no silver lining to me to this covid crisis, but if there is a slight slightest bit, is that maybe we’re eating better at home. Look, we’re cooking more, we’re not going out. We’re giving ourselves the opportunity, it’s almost a reset. And we find ourselves in what’s important. And I’m looking out my window for a second and my son’s outside working out. My daughter is doing yoga outside right now. So it’s kind of like, where are we resetting ourselves to maybe finding what our body needs instead of the extraneous things that we do every day to make ourselves happy.

Clint – Yeah, absolutely. We also take the opportunity to exercise during the day. I’ve just actually finished up just before I sit down with you. He was out at a little gazebo across the road here doing my yoga. You know, we get the kids out twice a day. And just as a family, too there are opportunities to reconnect with on the family level as well. So I completely agree. Look, it’s hard to find a silver lining in such a horrible situation, but we do our best.

Clint – So continuing on our discovery here of these powerful supplemental IV treatments and going back to this list that the rheumatologists recommended for people with autoimmune diseases. Again, the exact blueprint that you have as your offering here which made me so excited to talk to you. We’ve spoken about vitamin C. We’ve spoken about glutathione and the other three are zinc, NAC (N-Acetyl-Cysteine or Acetylcysteine), and vitamin D. So I’d like us to go through those one at a time in any order that you that you’d like. And just talk about the importance of these particular nutrients and how they impact the body.

Dr. Rosselli – Don’t forget most almost all the supplements that we’re talking about, amino acids, some of the branching amino acids. They’re all integral parts of our metabolism, our immune function. So if one of them is missing then if you’re missing a spark plug in your car, your car is not going to run perfectly. If you’re missing a certain type of something in your keyboard. If you’re missing one letter on your keyboard, something’s not going to work. So that’s what happens in the body. We don’t have enough zinc, Zinc is so important for immune health. You know, that’s why during this crisis, zinc has been very helpful. Because zinc is supposed to break down a part of the coronavirus membrane. I might not be saying it correctly, but that’s why we recommend making sure everybody has zinc. So almost every I.V. I put in zinc no matter what, somebody has an allergy just to say I’ll make sure they get the appropriate things. So it also can help a regular cold with zinc. It can help with viruses like people get cold sores. So it breaks down certain areas of the virus chain and that helps break the length of time the virus could stay. So that’s why it’s important. I mean, again, zinc is in our foods. But, I think you really can’t hurt to have more zinc in your diet.

Clint – Yeah, for sure. And it’s something that I’ve actually neglected over the years. It’s not something that I’ve paid much attention to. But it’s been interesting to see it come up so frequently in conversations and during COVID.

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Dr. Rosselli – But if you look at your multivitamin, which most people that listen to this, likes to take a multivitamin. I’m not a big fan of multivitamins because the amount that they put in there is so small that it’ll say forty two percent of the FDA amount. But even the FDA amount is (inaudible). So I dont want people to get complacent, thinking why take a multivitamin and vitamin C is in there, Zinc is in there, and vitamin D is in there. And I see them there. But you just have to make sure it’s the numbers that you need. So that’s just research on people’s parts. And it’s fun research anyway, just to find the right dose is just that will be good for you for a dietary supplement.

Clint – I like the word fun, because I’m going to get into Acetylcysteine or NAC. Now, I’ve never had anyone on the show ever talk about this. This is fun for me because it’s one of these supplements that I started taking. I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis nearly 14 years ago. And I think I have an entire drawer in my apartment full of supplements and I didn’t even know what they were, I was just buying. If someone said that if you found one Internet post somewhere that someone said they took this supplement and helped them, we bought it. Right. So tell us about the non-madness and the justification for NAC.

Dr. Rosselli – NAC, as you said, it is again one another, one of my favorites. It’s a part of the chain of metabolism and energy production in the body, NAC NAD. So it helps reduce symptoms like respiratory conditions and it help with expectorant if you have an upper respiratory tract infection, loosens mucus in your passageways. Again, it’s a powerful antioxidant so that’s why we use it, has anti-aging properties. Anything that anything like glutathione that cleans out the liver and detoxes. That’s almost where we get the anti-aging effects from. So NAC and glutathione cleans the liver out, gives our body to get rid of the free radicals. All the junk that we put now into our liver. Alcohol and all the things that gets bogged down in our liver. It helps get rid of those anti-oxidants. So I like it. We don’t have that in an IV, we have NAD in an I.V., but we don’t have NAC in an IV that’s using can be taken by a supplement. But again, it’s important to find the right supplement. Like you said, you can have a drawer full or things, but, you got to make sure that gluten-free, no fillers, and things like that. So that’s very important also in picking a supplement.

Clint – Now, what about vitamin D? It might be not as sexy as all the other ones, but fundamentally a very important.

Dr. Rosselli – Vitamin D is like really pretty much the coolest one. To me, that can only be taken by an IM shot, Intra-Muscular shot, or under the tounge. Again, vitamin D, like all these other ones, does not work by ingesting by mouth. And the problem is that people think, oh, why? I’m live in Florida. I’m in the sun all the time. I mean, that’s a misnomer. It’s such a small amount. And I say nine out of 10 of my patients that I checked their Vitamin D is low, beyond low. A normal range is 70 to 80, most people are 20 to 30. So vitamin D is really important. I mean, it’s great for your skin, it’s great for antioxidants, it’s just a great supplement for inflammatory issues. Again, it’s considered something that we should have for this COVID crisis is normal vitamin D levels. This can help combat and help your immune system combat anything that comes along.

Dr. Rosselli – So vitamin D is important especially during flu season, I usually do some type of promotion to make people come to the store to get vitamin D and if I’m almost giving it away because I know it is such a big difference. So all the supplements that we’re talking about, if anybody gets anything out of this, these are maybe the five or six basic supplements that I would always recommend. Besides a multivitamin that has the essential FDA approved ones as I said. And as long as they’re pharmaceutical grade supplements also, that’s what we have to make sure we have these pharmaceutical-grade supplements. So a company I like is Xymogen. They are they’re a pharmaceutical-grade that I use a lot. And I think it’s important not only to pick the supplement, but pick the right company.

Clint – Before I ask you a question about vitamin D. How do I spell Xymogen?

Dr. Rosselli – Xymogen.

Clint – Ok, great.

Dr. Rosselli – I am not promoting them, I’m just giving an example of a pharmaceutical-grade company.

Clint – Sure, All right. Yeah, I understand. Okay. Now on the bottom of a couple of comments about that. In the studies that I was looking at about vitamin D many years ago. They showed a trend for people with the severity of the autoimmune inflammatory markers as you mentioned earlier, CRP, BSR, and so forth. Tended to be lower corresponding to higher vitamin D levels, and so an inverse proportional relationship. So and the guidelines that are generally recommended for autoimmune to have vitamin D at the higher end of the normal range, not above and into the potentially toxic range. But just in the high end of the normal range, not just average, but more than. Would you agree with that?

Dr. Rosselli – If you look at a normal lab value or they all say the normal value on one test that you have is 40 to 60. Now, to me, when I do all my lectures and any type of webinars I watch. They like the higher normal, so they like 80 to 90. So anybody out there that you’re bringing up with autoimmune diseases that should be on the higher end, 80 to 90 are finding that if once 100 is fine. Going overdosing in vitamin D could happen, it’s hard to. You should stay in that range. Too much of anything is not good. But I do recommend a higher level of it.

Clint – Do you remember what unit of measurement that is?

Dr. Rosselli – I’m not sure. I mean, each lab has a different number. So anyone can see it, but I’d have to change screens.

Clint – Yeah. No, not to worry. Just especially with different countries at vitamin D, it always seems to have different units of measurement, different countries, and it can get confusing. So that’s why I was just asking.

Dr. Rosselli – I’ll e-mail it to you. So your next podcast you can bring it up.

Clint – Okay, fabulous. All right. When you see someone with inflammatory arthritis, such as rheumatoid or psoriatic arthritis and or lupus and so forth, what would you do? Would you say, this is my recommendation from the menu and let’s give you this I.V.? Or would you go through the process that you described earlier, which I didn’t know about, which sounds very custom, and do a review of their bloodwork first and then match the deficiencies to a treatment?

Dr. Rosselli – I would do that usually if patients have diseases where they’re become debilitated or it’s affecting their lives so much. I would say let’s go ahead and go ahead of the norm. So I would get a full panel. I will get the CRP, I would get allergy testing, I would get mold and fungus. I can’t get those two together, mold and fungus to make sure there’s not an environmental issue. And also, I’m big on being gluten-free for people that have autoimmune diseases. The GI tract itself is so inflammatory. You know why? Cause more information than you already have. So you have rheumatoid (Inaudible) You know why? Because it causes more inflammation. So if you cant (Inaudible), you’re CRP by half your symptoms without it go down a lot. Yeah. So for the balance, not just besides the vitamin C, high dose vitamin C IV’s. I try to do a little bit more that I know of, I’m not a rheumatologist, but I do know some things that might benefit some of these people. There’s a mentor of mine that in Colorado, she was an E.R. doctor and she had extremely bad Crohn’s disease. And she worked on relieving her Crohn’s disease herself. And now she’s extremely popular and famous with a functional medicine doctor. And she has an apartment across sensitives all it was all IV therapy, immune function. You think GI tract we call gut health. And that’s I mean, I’ve learned a lot from her. If anybody wants to look at her, her name is Jill Carnahan. I think sDhe is great.

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Clint – Yeah, fantastic. Do you have any patients success stories with or without autoimmune conditions that you’d like to share? That would be nice to hear about some cases in particular that you like to treat. If you see someone walk in, they have a certain thing you like clapping your hands together, thinking this will be this will be good because you know, you can help them.

Dr. Rosselli – I had a patient with irritable bowel syndrome that had IBSD, which is IBS diarrhea so that IPSC. And it took about a couple months of a lot of testing, I’m still testing and sensitivity testing and totally changing someone’s diet. And I just haven’t seen it for six months for once a week. And, you know, it was hard because, you know, it’s a lot of hand-holding because it’s hard to believe that someone that can actually make a change. But after a couple of months, you just you start seeing them walk into the office different a little bit in this step. A little bit more color on their skin, and it’s just it’s nice to see that you can make a change. And these changes are sometimes difficult for some people. It’s hard for them to change their diet or change their lifestyle or exercise or lose weight. But when people walk in my door, I notice that they’re committed. So they’re walking in because they want to do something. So it’s my job to reinforce what they’re trying to do. Make them feel comfortable with the plan that we do and make it a team approach. It’s not just me saying take these medications, take these supplements, and I’ll see you in three weeks. It’s more like I keep in touch with them. We email, walk to my front desk person if I need any problems. So that’s the gratifying part about it is you do see somebody like that.

Dr. Rosselli – I had another patient that had (Inaudible) anemia didn’t know it. And he was a normal person and he lost 50 pounds, he could barely walk, getting divorced, it was just terrible. And he had an MTA Jafar issue where he wasn’t breaking down homocysteine appropriately. And it was probably the highest I’ve ever seen he had homocysteine level in the 90’s. And we put what we just pretty much put him on IV’s and B complex and methylated Folate. And five, six months he came back in and he almost looks like a normal person and very happy.

Clint – Now, what you just described is actually a condition of B chronic B12 deficiency through malabsorption of B12, isn’t it? Someone cannot absorb B12. I have a client who has that situation. So I was listening very intently as you just spoke. And I would encourage anyone to get in contact with you with that condition. Because that’s very hard to resolve, isn’t it?

Dr. Rosselli – It’s really not, because it’s just a genetic test that you can get anywhere. It’s called an MTA Jaffar gene test. And it just tells you if you’re homozygous, which means you have both genes from your parents or you’re heterozygous, which is 1 gene. So homozygous, you have more of a chance to have that disease where you get symptoms too. I personally am heterozygous where I have an MTA Jaffar one gene. So I have a 30 percent reduction in my conversion of B12 and homocysteine. So I just think mentholated folate and I’m fine. But people that are homozygous you really have to make sure that they’re not there ahead of it. One thing that people really don’t notice is that women that have an MTA Jaffar gene could break down (inaudible) inappropriately. And they estrogen can be broken down into, I think, 16 extradite which can cause cancer. So women should always be checked for MTA Jaffar, especially if that breast cancer in their family.

Clint – Thanks for that. Before we sort of wrap up and do some sort of calls to action and how people might be able to get in contact with you, is there anything you’d like to add, anything that excites you about where your clinic is going, and where this sort of movement is heading or anything that we haven’t covered in here that’s relevant to our discussion that should be added?

Dr. Rosselli – Just in general, I think, as I strike on before. I don’t think this is alternative medicine anymore. I think this is something that’s moving forward that is at an exponential pace. I’m already opening up another office in Tampa and I might be open to one in Cleveland. So it is a product that I think people can relate to because it kind of makes sense. I have a lot of customers that are repeat customers, and it’s just they’re, so most people come in and I’m so happy that there’s someplace like this around here. And that’s a lot of what I get. And that’s why some patients are just happy to be there, it’s a relaxing environment, as you remember. And it’s just I think it’s here to stay. And on the other hand, I just wanted to mention because I know all the everybody around the world, whoever listens to this. We’re still on this COVID crisis. But I personally just want to make sure everybody knows that even though we’re opening up, some states are opening up and trying to get back to normal soon, We can’t get back to normal. Everybody has to realize that we have to prepare and social distancing, washing hands, wearing masks in appropriate areas required to do that until properly to fall or winter only because until we get a vaccine. Because this is going to be here for a while and we can’t let our guard down. So keep an immune function up, keep anti toxin levels up, keeping hydrated, keeping our vitamin D and zinc levels high. I think we have to do what’s best for us so we can protect ourselves and our families. Because I’m at the hospital all the time and I’m taking care of COVID patients. And, I just get to protect myself and protect my family and do them and do the right things that I’m judicious about. I’m very my hands are probably going to fall off soon from watching them.

Clint – Yeah, I’m sure they dry probably to break down the fat. So thank you. I mean, that’s it’s really insightful getting your point of view. Being at the hospital all the time, and seeing how you project this thing rolling out. So thank you for coming on this show and for sharing this information and the differentiator I think that also with these things that we’ve discussed is the way that we can take these products. And I was actually surprised with some of the ineffectiveness that you talked about by the oral route for some of these supplements, especially the vitamin D. You have a product range and this isn’t a pitch, but simply just making people aware that you have a product range of those five supplements that we talked about that can be appropriately absorbed by the body. Can you tell us how can people contact your office if they want to dial that in? I’m sure they can phone and have it delivered within the United States. And also, how can people get in contact with you if they wanted to do a telemedicine consultation?

Dr. Rosselli – My office manager, Olivia, she can answer all phone calls. She sets up my telemedicine, she’ll set up any type of products that you guys need and we can ship it out. And her number is 561 4062202 or if you want to go to our website, our website is an info email that we answer regularly and that’s www.revitaliv.com.

Clint – Yeah. Okay. Fabulous. Well, well done on all of the awesome work that you’re doing. Thanks for taking the time to sit with me today for a little while and explain all this. It’s been a pleasure to have you on the show.

Dr. Rosselli – My pleasure. Also. Be safe out there.

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